UIL 5A Area B 2022

[VannerS]

10 hours ago, Niceone said:

I am gonna say it at this competition wakeland is unbeatable. Sure they might lose a caption on some iffy performances at 8 am, but they have only been beat by 4 top 6a bands this whole season in finals (Hebron, flomo, Marcus, coppell by .135) they got beat by ld bell and westlake in prelims but thats just because of their early performance time compared to going right next to them making it easier for the judges to decide.

But with three music judges at area those caption awards they've lost makes it more plausible for other bands to come close to them.

[krustyjoe]

9 hours ago, VannerS said:

But with three music judges at area those caption awards they've lost makes it more plausible for other bands to come close to them.

not any of the bands in area b at least. the closest runner up would be lone star, and wakeland would only have a chance (probable not even) of losing music. visual and ge isn't even a question. 

[Tubalord11]

18 minutes ago, krustyjoe said:

not any of the bands in area b at least. the closest runner up would be lone star, and wakeland would only have a chance (probable not even) of losing music. visual and ge isn't even a question. 

They don’t have GE at Area though. And guys, do remember in 2019, Lonestar did win Area prelims, winning ALL 3 music judges, and then Lebanon won finals. So I don’t think it would be impossible for someone to do it, as it happened just a few years ago. 

 

[Zil]

On 10/17/2022 at 4:58 PM, Samuel Culper said:

It is enforced at Area and State Prelims, but not State Finals.

If there is an 8-min time limit, then why design a show longer than 8 mins? Some bands start before announcements to be within the limit but then I believe that time is not included in the judging (that's how I understand it anyway), so even if you have nailed down an absolutely great opener, it doesn't count and that's a waste. So why design a long show? Is there a disadvantage to having a show that's less than 8mins? Do judges (consciously or not) dock points for having a short show? Again, new to all this and just genuinely curious and trying to learn the intricacies of this fascinating activity.

[Tubalord11]

13 minutes ago, Zil said:

If there is an 8-min time limit, then why design a show longer than 8 mins? Some bands start before announcements to be within the limit but then I believe that time is not included in the judging (that's how I understand it anyway), so even if you have nailed down an absolutely great opener, it doesn't count and that's a waste. So why design a long show? Is there a disadvantage to having a show that's less than 8mins? Do judges (consciously or not) dock points for having a short show? Again, new to all this and just genuinely curious and trying to learn the intricacies of this fascinating activity.

No there is absolutely not disadvantage to having a show that isn’t 8 minutes. Most shows run through the 7:15-7:30 range(I think), but know. Judges are just judging on what they see. If you have a band that has a longer show but it’s dirty compared to a shorter show that’s clean, the judges will reward the cleaner show over the dirty one.

[krustyjoe]

1 hour ago, Tubalord11 said:

They don’t have GE at Area though. And guys, do remember in 2019, Lonestar did win Area prelims, winning ALL 3 music judges, and then Lebanon won finals. So I don’t think it would be impossible for someone to do it, as it happened just a few years ago. 

 

that is true but at least this year in my opinion lone star's show won't be able to beat wakeland in ge. in 2019 maybe, and yeah it wouldn't be impossible even today, but definitely not likely.

[Niceone]

2 hours ago, Tubalord11 said:

They don’t have GE at Area though. And guys, do remember in 2019, Lonestar did win Area prelims, winning ALL 3 music judges, and then Lebanon won finals. So I don’t think it would be impossible for someone to do it, as it happened just a few years ago. 

 

Judges were wack that year look at the state results. Just like last year vista beating vandy at area then opposite happens at state

[Tubalord11]

9 minutes ago, Niceone said:

Judges were wack that year look at the state results. Just like last year vista beating vandy at area then opposite happens at state

Yeah it was all over the place but it’s not to say something like that couldn’t happen again, but yes I know that stuff like that happens. Regarding Vista, Area was definitely their best 2 performances and probably their leek, but I do get what your saying.

[Samuel Culper]

3 hours ago, Zil said:

If there is an 8-min time limit, then why design a show longer than 8 mins? Some bands start before announcements to be within the limit but then I believe that time is not included in the judging (that's how I understand it anyway), so even if you have nailed down an absolutely great opener, it doesn't count and that's a waste. So why design a long show? Is there a disadvantage to having a show that's less than 8mins? Do judges (consciously or not) dock points for having a short show? Again, new to all this and just genuinely curious and trying to learn the intricacies of this fascinating activity.

Many of the bands design shows for both UIL and BOA and BOA is more liberal on the time allowed.  With longer shows, they may leave part out for UIL, or start early and have "preshow" that is performed before the 8:00 clock starts by design.

[Zil]

2 minutes ago, Samuel Culper said:

Many of the bands design shows for both UIL and BOA and BOA is more liberal on the time allowed.  With longer shows, they may leave part out for UIL, or start early and have "preshow" that is performed before the 8:00 clock starts by design.

so for BOA is it more desirable to have a longer show? Is the objective to maximize time on the field?

[BandFan59]

58 minutes ago, Zil said:

so for BOA is it more desirable to have a longer show? Is the objective to maximize time on the field?

The length of a show has no effect on a band's score. It's all about the content and performance quality of the show. UIL just has a shorter time limit than BOA so some bands may choose to make shorter shows during UIL state years or just cut out parts of their show for UIL performances.

[madismom]

Anyone know where to find  a video of Wakeland’s performance this year ? I wanted to see them at area but guess that’s not happening! 

[Bandmanio]

On 10/17/2022 at 4:51 PM, Zil said:

Is the 8 min time limit only enforced at Region? I thought I had read somewhere that the time limit rule is a bit different at area (or was it state?). And to add on the confusion, also different at BOA?

I am sure you didn't read that anywhere for Area. The only difference is in State Finals, where the timer is cut and not running.

[Bandmanio]

On 10/17/2022 at 6:10 PM, Dallas Hobbs said:

Hmmm would it be better if the Area contests adopted the 7-judge system like at state? What do you all think?

This doesn't seem very realistic. There would have to be 70 quality/qualified judges for the 5A area weekend alone. State only required 7 total (and they were among the best of the best). I think finding 70 (including percussion specialists and music/visual content design) would be almost impossible to pull off.

[Tubalord11]

Good morning everyone!!! Good luck to all the bands today! Anyone gonna be at this one?

[JazzRun]

I’m here for a bit. It’s crazy windy! The bands are fighting to keep props and flags and hats under control. I hope it calms down for finals tonight. 

[DrumLine]

Will be there for the finals tonight. Saw video this AM of backdrop boards being blown down during performances. Good luck to all the bands!

[Krispy924]

Any news on Finals?

[Tubalord11]

Just now, Krispy924 said:

Any news on Finals?

I got word from a friend that the first half of prelims is(might be the wrong order 

 

and this is performance order not rankings!!! 

1st: Lonestar/Lebanon 

2nd: Lonestar/Lebanon 

3rd: The Colony 

4th: Centennial 

5th: Lovejoy

 

again, not rankings just what I'm pretty sure it is but we will have it soon I'd imagine, but I can confirm the are the first five bands to perform tonight 

 

[bneat324]

 

Finals Performance Order

645 lebanon trail
700 lone star
715 the colony
730 centennial
745 love joy
815 independence
830 memorial
845 mckinney north
900 liberty
915 argyle

[Tubalord11]

Just now, bneat324 said:

 

Finals Performance Order

645 lebanln trail
700 lone star
715 the colony
730 centennial
745 love joy
815 independence
830 memorial
845 mckinney north
900 liberty
915 argyle

Wow congratulations to Memorial! And Argyle, and independence! Two first time finals(Argyle only bc first year as 5A), and memorial. No reedy after 2 years of them, as well as heritage after many years of them making it to finals. Congratulations to all! Finals will be great for sure! 

[Tubalord11]

4 hours ago, DrumLine said:

Will be there for the finals tonight. Saw video this AM of backdrop boards being blown down during performances. Good luck to all the bands!

Hey! If possible could you do a little post of each band are after a couple your thoughts? Just curious how everyone’s doing!

[Tubalord11]

Anyone here that could give an update on the first block? 

[Tubalord11]

okay everyone, I have come to the conclusion that this year, at least for 5A, they are doing prelims placement are reverse prelims placement. If you look at this area and area C, it kind of makes sense. The best bands are going towards the front (what everyone considers the best is somewhat different, but the general considered best bands are going earlier). For area F however, it seems like they did reverse prelims results for finals schedule. This is very interesting... lots of new changes that I don't remember being informed about, not a complaint just interesting. 

[madismom]

It’s random actually