2022 6A UIL State

[packwick]

6 minutes ago, bandisbetterintexas said:

can anyone give me information on the judges tonight?

they all judge or have judged for BOA, DCI, and/or WGI. more info can be found on those sites.

[cjm715]

Man, what a day and what a contest.

I was surely convinced the top 2 of the contest would be hebron and the woodlands. Wasn’t quite expecting vandy to sneak up and tie with hebron like that. 

Gotta say it’s cool to see waxahachie back in finals and to see pearland in finals as well. This is a transition year for pearland and they’re already doing so much better than before, I think they will be one of the next powerhouse programs in the coming years.

Sad about Ld Bell missing finals for the first time in so long, however they had a tough job with that time spot so they decided to give it their all. 16th after going 2nd isn’t bad at all actually. Looking forward to seeing them make their come back soon enough. 

I’m ready for tomorrow but i’m also ready for some sleep, see y’all tomorrow!

[Vidal28]

1 minute ago, LKendrick said:

I can’t think of a high school marching competition with a more stacked lineup of percussion sections.  Feel like there could be lots of movement in that caption tomorrow just because of how deep it is.  

I would predict there to be quite a bit of movement in most captions tomorrow. I wonder how much in the musical section performance captions. I feel the judges were mostly in the ballpark, but I do still anticipate some change there as well

[BandFan59]

8 minutes ago, bandisbetterintexas said:

can anyone give me information on the judges tonight?

Many of this year’s judges have been constants in the BOA, DCI, and WGI circuits. Off the top of my head I know Chip Crotts is the brass caption head of Blue Devils. So a lot of big names on the panel with a history of judging these types of events, but that doesn’t always mean results will go the way one might expect them to.

[Vidal28]

3 minutes ago, BandFan59 said:

Many of this year’s judges have been constants in the BOA, DCI, and WGI circuits. Off the top of my head I know Chip Crotts is the brass caption head of Blue Devils. So a lot of big names on the panel with a history of judging these types of events, but that doesn’t always mean results will go the way one might expect them to.

At least the UIL discreditors/disregarders can’t use the “retired old timey teacher judge” card anymore lol

[LKendrick]

Super proud of Odessa Permian.  
 

2016 - 37th

2021 - 33rd

2022 - 29th

Beat some really good bands today.  A little better every year. 

[bingogooberman]

the woodlands on track for potentially their highest state finish ever. the podium is within grasp!

[redandnavy]

I'm SO proud to see Mckinney Boyd make it to state!! The program has gone through a ton of director changes and "growing years" so I know it must have been hard.

[Rubisco]

Honestly, the results and finalists are strikingly similar to the BOA results from a couple days ago, at least when compared to UIL contests of the past. The biggest shake-up is the swapping of CTJ and Cedar Ridge, I guess. Then again, as others have pointed out, this panel consisted entirely of judges from "The Big Three". I guess it isn't surprising they went for those judges, given how much more closely the sheets look like BOA sheets -- also, maybe because these judges have fewer connections to the bands in Texas.

[lost]

I’m slightly inclined to believe Visual Ensemble scores might have incorporated colorguard a little bit more than usual? At least going off scores and the judge.

[Marchingbandperson]

Wow westlake’s woodwinds got slaughtered for music. Definitely not what I thought that would be after it was ge that killed them in boa 

[CosmicLimbo]

Honestly super happy for Duncanville. I hope they make use of this momentum and continue to grow and hopefully return to the heights they were once at. Visually they've improved tremendously and if they continue to produce great designs, and can start challenging themselves more on a musical front, they will be a force to be reckoned with. Congragulation Dville!

[TxTrpt]

15 minutes ago, LKendrick said:

Super proud of Odessa Permian.  
 

2016 - 37th

2021 - 33rd

2022 - 29th

Beat some really good bands today.  A little better every year. 

Great job Mojo band! It’s nice to see a relevant West Texas band again. They bested some solid Houston area bands tonight

Only graduating 35-40 seniors for a band of 300+. Future is bright!

[Rubisco]

7 minutes ago, lost said:

I’m slightly inclined to believe Visual Ensemble scores might have incorporated colorguard a little bit more than usual? At least going off scores and the judge.

The adjudicator there is certainly qualified to judge it, as he judges movement for WGI and color guard for DCI. But, ultimately, it's just one part of a sheet that has many other considerations. Actually, the lack of a pure color guard or auxiliary caption here is conspicuous, considering every other section of the band has been singled out with their own judge.

[TxTrpt]

Also, congrats to Austin area bands - 4 in finals! So close to having had more in… Westlake - last one out. Buda Johnson would probably have been a finalist (in my opinion). James Bowie would also have been a potential finalist (15th at BOA SA)

[Lildrummerdude1]

I absolutely can’t believe Coppell got 11th in percussion. After their successful showing at Thunder In The Hills and Lonestar drumline contest, I would at least expect them to place top 5. Questionable judging???

[packwick]

13 minutes ago, Rubisco said:

The adjudicator there is certainly qualified to judge it, as he judges movement for WGI and color guard for DCI. But, ultimately, it's just one part of a sheet that has many other considerations. Actually, the lack of a pure color guard or auxiliary caption here is conspicuous, considering every other section of the band has been singled out with their own judge.

hmmmm i believe he also judges design analysis for WGI which is like the ens vis for guards. fellow ivy league type. Harvard law grad i think. dances too. lol. dancing lawyer.

[packwick]

1 minute ago, Lildrummerdude1 said:

I absolutely can’t believe Coppell got 11th in percussion. After their successful showing at Thunder In The Hills and Lonestar drumline contest, I would at least expect them to place top 5. Questionable judging???

imma gonna guess that judge will change 'cause i don't see Lauren Teal yet. or Oak Ridge's former director.

[pancake]

5 minutes ago, Lildrummerdude1 said:

I absolutely can’t believe Coppell got 11th in percussion. After their successful showing at Thunder In The Hills and Lonestar drumline contest, I would at least expect them to place top 5. Questionable judging???

i completely agree, Coppell was breathtaking at tith, like literally mind blowing. i think this is may be an issue in design or even just judges interp, def not with those extremely talented kids and instructional staff. this will def change in finals

[thecircusbee]

Leitzke is an amazing DCI judge but man Coppell and Round Rock's perc scores are hard to digest.

[1998-2018]

11 hours ago, Dallas Hobbs said:

Keller has placed above Waxahachie in 7-judge UIL style contests(DMI and so far state prelims) however Waxahachie placed above Keller in both prelims and finals at Area, a 5-judge system. Interesting. No idea why this happened lol

Having seen all of them, I’m inclined to say it has practically everything to do with the variations in both bands runs and almost nothing to do with the number of judges.

It’s also possible the personal preferences of the different judges played a role, but that bit of dirty laundry is usually kept in the closet.

[1998-2018]

1 hour ago, Vidal28 said:

At least the UIL discreditors/disregarders can’t use the “retired old timey teacher judge” card anymore lol

I know who you can thank for that change. 😉

[badboamemes]

1 hour ago, Lildrummerdude1 said:

I absolutely can’t believe Coppell got 11th in percussion. After their successful showing at Thunder In The Hills and Lonestar drumline contest, I would at least expect them to place top 5. Questionable judging???

It's almost always in the quality of the run. They could have had a not so strong run in prelims. I also see a lot of people look at the percussion world as only battery and they don't pay attention to the front ensemble that much. It's 50/50, if you don't have a strong front ensemble you are hosed. (Finals percussion judge is a front ensemble person btw.)

[littlejaw]

5 hours ago, badboamemes said:

It's almost always in the quality of the run. They could have had a not so strong run in prelims. I also see a lot of people look at the percussion world as only battery and they don't pay attention to the front ensemble that much. It's 50/50, if you don't have a strong front ensemble you are hosed. (Finals percussion judge is a front ensemble person btw.)

We see this all the time in DCI and WGI when it comes to percussion. I’ve always been happy with Drum Judges because they always seem to be the best judges to call it like it is that night.

There is minor variance in judges that seem just to score battery with more weight over the front ensemble and those that tend to give them a more equal weight. I’ve listened to a bunch of DCI drum tapes on the bus and the score is reflected in the comments for sure.

I hope that we start to get the same outcomes in BOA and UIL. No matter the group, what you put on the field that night gets the score it deserves.

[LeanderMomma]

Y’all literally wasted 2-3 pages in this thread asking for recaps. 🤣🤣🤣