Popular Post Dallas Hobbs Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, MarchingBandOG said: Does anyone happen to know the finalist breakdown by area? Area B (3)- Coppell, Keller, Waxahachie Area C (3)- Marcus, Hebron, Flower Mound Area D (2)- Ronald Reagan, Round Rock Area E (1)- Pearland Area F (1)- The Woodlands Area H (2)- Vandegrift, Vista Ridge Area I (2)- Bridgeland, Cy-Fair AWF2014, 11BandMan11 and MarchingBandOG 2 1 Quote
natertater21000 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Music ensemble really has me scratching my head. I'm thinking we will see the most movement in that caption. Parkwoodmom 1 Quote
Iplaydadrum Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, Miyazuu said: It's probably been asked a hundred times but- will it be the same set of judges for finals? I'm curious how it'll affect finals results 😗 some of these are some crazy placements For bigger events like state or a super regional, they typically get a different panel of judges for prelims and finals. Quote
littlejaw Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, natertater21000 said: Music ensemble really has me scratching my head. I'm thinking we will see the most movement in that caption. Kennedy is a great judge, I trust his numbers. Quote
BandDad4 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, kingcontra said: dang... what happened to timber Early morning time slot mixed with more critical and reserved judging in the morning compared to later in the afternoon where judging appears more relaxed. Quote
Popular Post ChristopherRoden Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, BandDad4 said: Early morning time slot mixed with more critical and reserved judging in the morning compared to later in the afternoon where judging appears more relaxed. I agree that the early morning judging was significantly more critical crunchycookie3, Online Marcher and JazzRun 3 Quote
crunchycookie3 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Really shocked at the placements for the AM bubble bands who had EXTREMELY good runs. I really thought Bell was going to be a lock after a run like that and hearing many of the afternoon groups, and was very surprised to see Wylie and Timber Creek so low! Hoping they fare better at BOA SA on Saturday. JazzRun 1 Quote
Popular Post peshbandkid Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, Dallas Hobbs said: Area B (3)- Coppell, Keller, Waxahachie Area C (3)- Marcus, Hebron, Flower Mound Area D (2)- Ronald Reagan, Round Rock Area E (1)- Pearland Area F (1)- The Woodlands Area H (2)- Vandegrift, Vista Ridge Area I (2)- Bridgeland, Cy-Fair DFW for the win 😁 Dallas Hobbs, BandGuy88, Vidal28 and 2 others 4 1 Quote
SlowDriver Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, crunchycookie3 said: Really shocked at the placements for the AM bubble bands who had EXTREMELY good runs. I really thought Bell was going to be a lock after a run like that and hearing many of the afternoon groups, and was very surprised to see Wylie and Timber Creek so low! Hoping they fare better at BOA SA on Saturday. Wylie won’t be there. They are done for the year. Surprised too since they essentially tied Dripping Spring Saturday in Waco to see them drop so much after a great run. JazzRun and ChristopherRoden 2 Quote
marcx Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, SlowDriver said: Wylie won’t be there. They are done for the year. Surprised too since they essentially tied Dripping Spring Saturday in Waco to see them drop so much after a great run. It’s also surprising that they placed so low seeing as how they tied and won the tie breaker with Prosper at area JazzRun 1 Quote
Gehrig4 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 35 minutes ago, kingcontra said: dang... what happened to timber Asking the same thing. 28th?!! Quote
Popular Post crunchycookie3 Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, SlowDriver said: Wylie won’t be there. They are done for the year. Surprised too since they essentially tied Dripping Spring Saturday in Waco to see them drop so much after a great run. Very sad to hear this. Even 20th place for that show would have felt criminally underscored! Regardless of placement, Wylie students gave one of the best runs of the day, and definitely inspired many on these forums. They should be proud! ChristopherRoden, celesta, minorsax and 3 others 6 Quote
BandFan95 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 34 minutes ago, SlowDriver said: Wylie won’t be there. They are done for the year. Surprised too since they essentially tied Dripping Spring Saturday in Waco to see them drop so much after a great run. You really can't compare UIL judging to BOA judging. It's really different. Dripping Springs has been a UIL powerhouse for UIL and has only recently made the change to be a more BOA focused band. Online Marcher 1 Quote
HornBlorgis9000 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, band-o5050 said: In short, CON- Content. What you do. ACV- Achievement. How well you do it. Interesting... So I was also curious about how one would interpret this. So say, scoring low on content, but high on achievement for instance. Quote
Popular Post natertater21000 Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, HornBlorgis9000 said: Interesting... So I was also curious about how one would interpret this. So say, scoring low on content, but high on achievement for instance. Pearland's music ensemble scores would be an example of this. 25th in terms of content so compared to the field not exceedingly difficult. The 4th in achievement is saying they performed that more conservative repertoire nearly perfectly. All in that judges opinion of course. TromboneW, lost, HornBlorgis9000 and 3 others 6 Quote
wyattstamm Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 10 hours ago, lost said: Rough run. I had multiple people tell me that is wasn't a bad run, so idk. Quote
Popular Post BravoBand Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, ChristopherRoden said: I agree that the early morning judging was significantly more critical The numbers do back that up, although the quality of bands is never evenly distributed. Avg # of Finalists Block 1 26 1 Block 2 29 1 Block 3 20 4 Block 4 16 5 Block 5 17 3 Dallas Hobbs, Austen, BrassMomof2 and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post Hack Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2023 Pearland has 35% freshmen building a strong future! So proud of them. I am learning so much from this forum, thank you all HornBlorgis9000, Miyazuu, RRBND27 and 2 others 4 1 Quote
Popular Post Displayed name Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2023 People were talking about how imbalanced the blocks were before the contest, I don’t think it impacted judging as much as y’all think it did BandDad4, Hard Core Band Fan, Dallas Hobbs and 1 other 3 1 Quote
Popular Post JMR2022 Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Miyazuu said: It was mentioned by a waxahachie parent/member that UIL supposedly allows for a margin of error within 2-3 seconds. Supposedly, waxahachie was just under those two seconds, allowing for them to remain in the competition. If that's true, it's probably an unspoken clause that UIL doesn't mention to avoid abuse or it's a case by case basis dependent on how the higher ups are feeling that day. I'm not sure where you're idea of "adding CTJ to finals as 15th place" is coming from. Adding a finalist spot and keeping a band who went 2 seconds over are very different magnitudes. Waxahachie performed well, many saw them as a finalist lock. Respectfully, and or course my own opinion, CTJ not making finals isn't very shocking. Their show and their performance is good but this entire season it felt like a strong performance from another band could knock them over, and that's what seemed to happen. Plus, UIL doesn't seem to favor their show style, we can see this from previous year results. They cut a minute or so away to preshow because the show is made for a BOA circuit. The rule does not state that there is a "few additional seconds" allowed. the committee ruling yesterday, was that they were concerned that it was an error of the time keeper running the clock even though they had the video with a time stamp on it. My comment of adding CTJ to finals was that UIL drug their feet on this all day and once they announced that Waxahachie had advanced it would not be fair to take it away from them. But it is also not fair to CTJ that would have advanced. As for the comment that UIL does not favor their type of show - correct - CTJ is going to Grand Nats this year and generally they always do a BOA type show, that has been their style and they have always done the pre-show and started prior to the school being announced. But after opening in 2008, they have advanced to State every year since 2010 and finals every year since 2012. during that span they have also picked up a UIL Bronze Medal in 2014 and a Gold Medal in 2020. At the end of the day, it comes down to a rule that has been used many times in the past to exclude programs including Roma in 2019. If you have the rule then enforce the rule - if not, then change the rule or do away with it - 42 other programs followed it during yesterdays competition. ChristopherRoden, clarinote, crunchycookie3 and 5 others 8 Quote
Coolhornplayer Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 These are the average scores from the top 15 bands. Marcus and Hebron are so close together right now vandegrift 963.7142857 Marcus 960.7142857 Hebron 960.4285714 Flowermound 957 woodlands 952.2857143 Reagan 948.8571429 vista ridge 947.5714286 Coppell 937.2857143 Round Rock 929.7142857 Pearland 928.7142857 Keller 920.7142857 Bridgeland 917.1428571 Cy-Fair 913.5714286 Waxahachie 911.1428571 CTJ 901.1428571 Quote
Popular Post AWF2014 Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2023 10 hours ago, tubapop said: Bridgeland parent here. Today was a relatively bad run for us. I'm hoping for improvement tomorrow and at the same time am humbled that we made it in when the field is so crowded with superstars. Cy Woods parent here. Congratulations to both Bridgeland and CY Fair! I’m so happy to see CY Fair isd in finals!!! Best of luck today! CosmicLimbo, Displayed name and ChristopherRoden 3 Quote
Popular Post Dallas Hobbs Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Dallas Hobbs said: Area B (3)- Coppell, Keller, Waxahachie Area C (3)- Marcus, Hebron, Flower Mound Area D (2)- Ronald Reagan, Round Rock Area E (1)- Pearland Area F (1)- The Woodlands Area H (2)- Vandegrift, Vista Ridge Area I (2)- Bridgeland, Cy-Fair And If I have this right (correct me if I’m not) this is the finalists breakdown by major city: DFW- 6 Houston- 4 Austin- 3 San Antonio- 1 ChristopherRoden, 11BandMan11, celesta and 1 other 4 Quote
BandFan95 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, JMR2022 said: The rule does not state that there is a "few additional seconds" allowed. the committee ruling yesterday, was that they were concerned that it was an error of the time keeper running the clock even though they had the video with a time stamp on it. My comment of adding CTJ to finals was that UIL drug their feet on this all day and once they announced that Waxahachie had advanced it would not be fair to take it away from them. But it is also not fair to CTJ that would have advanced. As for the comment that UIL does not favor their type of show - correct - CTJ is going to Grand Nats this year and generally they always do a BOA type show, that has been their style and they have always done the pre-show and started prior to the school being announced. But after opening in 2008, they have advanced to State every year since 2010 and finals every year since 2012. during that span they have also picked up a UIL Bronze Medal in 2014 and a Gold Medal in 2020. At the end of the day, it comes down to a rule that has been used many times in the past to exclude programs including Roma in 2019. If you have the rule then enforce the rule - if not, then change the rule or do away with it - 42 other programs followed it during yesterdays competition. Did CTJ challenge this at all? BandDad4 1 Quote
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