Knighttime12 Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 12:19 AM, Karma_Savior said: Hendrickson Hays/Lake Belton Lake Belton/Hays McCallum Smithson Valley Pieper Comal Canyon Seguin Pflugerville Georgetown Unpopular opinion, but this makes the most sense to me. I’d love some discussions or questions on why, because I’m fully confident on this list! Expand Very valid list as I know Hays and Lake Belton both have great shows, but as a member of McCallum I wouldn't rule us out of the top 3, we're starting to clean up very nicely. Quote
Knighttime12 Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 12:19 AM, Karma_Savior said: Hendrickson Hays/Lake Belton Lake Belton/Hays McCallum Smithson Valley Pieper Comal Canyon Seguin Pflugerville Georgetown Unpopular opinion, but this makes the most sense to me. I’d love some discussions or questions on why, because I’m fully confident on this list! Expand I am curious though, do you have McCallum below Hays and LB because you think that their shows have stronger design or because you believe the latter two are performing their show at a higher level at this point in the season? I only ask because I strongly believe that this year's show has significantly better design than what we fielded last season, and I'd love to hear your input! Quote
Karma_Savior Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 4:52 PM, Knighttime12 said: I am curious though, do you have McCallum below Hays and LB because you think that their shows have stronger design or because you believe the latter two are performing their show at a higher level at this point in the season? I only ask because I strongly believe that this year's show has significantly better design than what we fielded last season, and I'd love to hear your input! Expand I honestly think the show last year was SUPERB! The blue vs. red was visually incredible. I haven't seen McCallum since Cap City, and I know you guys are a lot stronger now. The only thing I'm not 100% sold on this year is the closer. I just think it's a little out of character for the kind of shows you guys normally do. You're performing it very well, it's just not my preference musically. Here's my thought process in regards to placement. US BANDS: Copperas Cove barely beat Hays and McCallum. 6A AREA: Weiss and Hutto beat Copperas Cove. Vista Ridge: Lake Belton beat Hutto and Weiss by an incredibly large margin. I know contests, judging, and performances are all subject to change. Opinions vary and every judge's preference of what they like changes. I also know every band in 5A Area D is working very hard to clean up the messy spots. Aside from Hendrickson, I think placements 2-5 are going to be a complete toss up, but I do believe all the bands I had listed will advance to state. Okay 1 Quote
Tubalord11 Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 5:21 PM, Karma_Savior said: I honestly think the show last year was SUPERB! The blue vs. red was visually incredible. I haven't seen McCallum since Cap City, and I know you guys are a lot stronger now. The only thing I'm not 100% sold on this year is the closer. I just think it's a little out of character for the kind of shows you guys normally do. You're performing it very well, it's just not my preference musically. Here's my thought process in regards to placement. US BANDS: Copperas Cove barely beat Hays and McCallum. 6A AREA: Weiss and Hutto beat Copperas Cove. Vista Ridge: Lake Belton beat Hutto and Weiss by an incredibly large margin. I know contests, judging, and performances are all subject to change. Opinions vary and every judge's preference of what they like changes. I also know every band in 5A Area D is working very hard to clean up the messy spots. Aside from Hendrickson, I think placements 2-5 are going to be a complete toss up, but I do believe all the bands I had listed will advance to state. Expand I personally don't see Pieper not making state this year. They were 2nd at boa Conroe, won a USBands comp, so unless they have a bad finals run, I'd be very shocked to see them out of state Quote
Knighttime12 Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 5:21 PM, Karma_Savior said: I honestly think the show last year was SUPERB! The blue vs. red was visually incredible. I haven't seen McCallum since Cap City, and I know you guys are a lot stronger now. The only thing I'm not 100% sold on this year is the closer. I just think it's a little out of character for the kind of shows you guys normally do. You're performing it very well, it's just not my preference musically. Here's my thought process in regards to placement. US BANDS: Copperas Cove barely beat Hays and McCallum. 6A AREA: Weiss and Hutto beat Copperas Cove. Vista Ridge: Lake Belton beat Hutto and Weiss by an incredibly large margin. I know contests, judging, and performances are all subject to change. Opinions vary and every judge's preference of what they like changes. I also know every band in 5A Area D is working very hard to clean up the messy spots. Aside from Hendrickson, I think placements 2-5 are going to be a complete toss up, but I do believe all the bands I had listed will advance to state. Expand Okay yeah, I can definitely see where you're coming from. We didn't perform our full closer at Cap City or USBands, but I do agree that it is the weakest part of our show at the moment, largely because we started learning drill and music for it much later than we intended to. However, I do think it will contribute greatly to our vis scores because it has some pretty cool and challenging drill that is starting to get dangerously clean. Nonetheless still looking forward to this comp quite a bit, and excited for more state representation from this area!! Karma_Savior 1 Quote
Karma_Savior Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 5:29 PM, Tubalord11 said: I personally don't see Pieper not making state this year. They were 2nd at boa Conroe, won a USBands comp, so unless they have a bad finals run, I'd be very shocked to see them out of state Expand I'm looking at the results, and I'm not seeing them beat super competitive bands... If they won a USBands comp where they beat bands that traditionally make Area Finals, I would understand that assessment. You can obliterate everyone at a contest, but was the contest that competitive? Not undermining the accomplishment, just stating the facts. Okay 1 Quote
TacosNSalsa Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 5:38 PM, Karma_Savior said: I'm looking at the results, and I'm not seeing them beat super competitive bands... If they won a USBands comp where they beat bands that traditionally make Area Finals, I would understand that assessment. You can obliterate everyone at a contest, but was the contest that competitive? Not undermining the accomplishment, just stating the facts. Expand I have Pieper in the top 2-3, I think they'll do great. Not trying to compare or interpret results across contests because I don't think that works well. I just base my view on seeing the different groups and having a pretty good sense of what a state-caliber band looks like. Quote
Bandmanio Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 6:32 PM, TacosNSalsa said: I have Pieper in the top 2-3, I think they'll do great. Not trying to compare or interpret results across contests because I don't think that works well. I just base my view on seeing the different groups and having a pretty good sense of what a state-caliber band looks like. Expand No shade, but what are your credentials for having a "sense of what a state-caliber band" is? I say we just let the bands do the talking and see what results we have come Saturday night at 11:00 PM Karma_Savior and Aquaflamma85 2 Quote
TacosNSalsa Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 10:03 PM, Bandmanio said: No shade, but what are your credentials for having a "sense of what a state-caliber band" is? I say we just let the bands do the talking and see what results we have come Saturday night at 11:00 PM Expand I've watched a lot of state marching contests 😄 And a lot of area contests! This is a forum for posting opinions and sharing thoughts respectfully. So I will continue to share that I think Pieper looks like a state-caliber band, with respect to many other great bands at the contest. Bandmanio 1 Quote
ReveriesOp24 Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 12:19 AM, Karma_Savior said: Hendrickson Hays/Lake Belton Lake Belton/Hays McCallum Smithson Valley Pieper Comal Canyon Seguin Pflugerville Georgetown Unpopular opinion, but this makes the most sense to me. I’d love some discussions or questions on why, because I’m fully confident on this list! Expand Someone’s gotta drop bc there’s no way Belton doesn’t make finals unless they are first out by a slim margin Quote
Karma_Savior Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 10:01 PM, ReveriesOp24 said: Someone’s gotta drop bc there’s no way Belton doesn’t make finals unless they are first out by a slim margin Expand They are first/second out by a slim margin. LASA and MacArthur are also on the bubble for Finals 😬 ReveriesOp24 1 Quote
Okay Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 On 10/23/2023 at 10:17 PM, Dave609 said: Here is my first predictions for this contest- 1st- Robert E. Hendrickson HS 2nd- McCallum HS 3rd- Jack C. Hays HS 4th- Pieper HS 5th- Smithson Valley HS 6th- Lake Belton HS 7th- Georgetown HS 8th- Seguin HS 9th- MacArthur HS 10th- Belton HS First two out- Comal Canyon HS Pflugerville HS I know ya'll may be wondering why I have Smithson Valley over Lake Belton and Georgetown. I think that because of their recent return to the 5A classification. they have had success within 5A and I think this year will show that since they would have been a State Alternate last year had 5A had a state year. But it will definitely be a battle between those 3 Expand Just curious, but have you considered the size of Lake Belton this year? They are a whole lot bigger than last year and I wonder if that would affect the placement between them and Smithson Valley Quote
BaritoneBallah Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 What are the chances of Cedar Creek making finals/advancing? My little cousin is a freshman there, they honestly sounded a lot better than I expected them to, I personally likely see them finalizing and not so likely making state. I'd like to hear other peoples input though! Quote
fluteyboi Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 7:33 PM, Okay said: Just curious, but have you considered the size of Lake Belton this year? They are a whole lot bigger than last year and I wonder if that would affect the placement between them and Smithson Valley Expand I can guarantee you that size does not matter much regarding competition. Rouse is fairly small compared to its competitors like Cedar Park and they still go out and produce very well. That being said Lake Belton is on a good trajectory right now with their program so it depends on how much work they put in these past two weeks (even though the rain did mess with these bands a bit but hey at least we got rain). Quote
Bandmanio Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 7:47 PM, BaritoneBallah said: What are the chances of Cedar Creek making finals/advancing? My little cousin is a freshman there, they honestly sounded a lot better than I expected them to, I personally likely see them finalizing and not so likely making state. I'd like to hear other peoples input though! Expand They certainly have improved this year. Not sure if it's enough to make finals but I'd think they would be close. Quote
ReveriesOp24 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 8:53 PM, fluteyboi said: I can guarantee you that size does not matter much regarding competition. Rouse is fairly small compared to its competitors like Cedar Park and they still go out and produce very well. That being said Lake Belton is on a good trajectory right now with their program so it depends on how much work they put in these past two weeks (even though the rain did mess with these bands a bit but hey at least we got rain). Expand This is also true, bigger band doesn’t always mean better band like have you seen Allen HS’s band with like over 500 people on the field? Quote
BaritoneBallah Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 8:54 PM, Bandmanio said: They certainly have improved this year. Not sure if it's enough to make finals but I'd think they would be close. Expand fingers crossed! Bandmanio 1 Quote
fluteyboi Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 Anyone covering the contest since this thread has been pretty quiet? Quote
abtwitch Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 5A Area Finalists (random order): Smithson Valley Pieper Bastrop Georgetown Comal Canyon McCallum Lake Belton Hendrickson Pflugerville Jack C. Hays Dave609 and Zil 2 Quote
Tubalord11 Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 1:10 AM, abtwitch said: 5A Area Finalists (random order): Smithson Valley Pieper Bastrop Georgetown Comal Canyon McCallum Lake Belton Hendrickson Pflugerville Jack C. Hays Expand Congrats to all our finalist! A bit surprised about Belton not making it but everything else seems about right, battle for state will be a big one here, good luck to all our finalist! Quote
Oboeish20 Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 I will reveal that top 5 in prelims were (in random order): Smithson Valley Hendrickson Pflugerville Lake Belton Jack C. Hays Tubalord11 1 Quote
Tubalord11 Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 1:54 AM, RetiredBandGuy05 said: I will reveal that top 5 in prelims were (in random order): Smithson Valley Hendrickson Pflugerville Lake Belton Jack C. Hays Expand WOW! Supper happy to see SV, LB and Pflugerville up there but no McCallum is a bit surprising, can’t wait to see how this one turns out! Quote
Coolhornplayer Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 Lake Belton was absolutely stunning whompwhomp 1 Quote
Tubalord11 Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 Finals Results: 1st. Hendrickson (advances to state) 2nd. Lake Belton (advances to state) 3rd. Pieper (advances to state) 4th. Pflugerville ( advances to state) 5th. Smithson Valley (advances to state) 6th. Jack. C. Hays 7th. McCallum 8th. Georgetown 9th. Comal Cayon 10th. Bastrop HUE Congratulations to Pieper, Lake Belton, P-Ville and SV! A bit surprised about Hays and McCallum, but it seems a lot of other programs really stepped it up this year! Can't wait to see how these bands do at state! Quote
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