UIL 6A Area B 2023

[Jon]

Just found out that if you add up the Prelims results, SLC and KCent tied for 7th... wow. If we went off prelims results alone 8 bands would have advanced.(i think there was a new rule about advancing tied bands for state.)

[Brent]

  On 10/22/2023 at 3:21 PM, cjm715 said:

Congrats to Haltom and Berkner on making the SMBC!! How long has it been for both programs since they’ve been to San Antonio for UIL?

 

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Berkner was 2016 in Area C. Missed for the first time in 20 years in 2018, RISD tanked the season in 2020, moved to this area in 2021.

[Dallas Hobbs]

  On 10/22/2023 at 6:16 PM, Mello10273 said:

The Richardson show this year was beyond pandora, it was based on the movie ‘Avatar’. Such a shame their electronics were out in the beginning. 
I’ve seen clips of their show (Though I don’t remember where) and the beginning had a woodwind choir, but they were hard to hear because of the audio issue. I loved the idea of their show and hope to see them make area finals in years to come.

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Ok I’m starting to remember. I looked up some pictures of the show online and I remember being impressed by how well they made that big circle formation in the opener. I know large curvilinear formations like that take work to pull of. I see on the results sheet that the two visual judges placed them higher than 2/3 of the music judges, so it seems their visual proficiency was at a high level during prelims and they were close to making finals because of it

[Dallas Hobbs]

  On 10/22/2023 at 6:35 PM, Jon said:

Just found out that if you add up the Prelims results, SLC and KCent tied for 7th... wow. If we went off prelims results alone 8 bands would have advanced.(i think there was a new rule about advancing tied bands for state.)

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Was there a rule change for this year? Because I know for the past two years we had ties for the last state spot and those were broken by judges preference. (I think they were both area b, or was one also in area c?)

[LostChoirGuy]

  On 10/22/2023 at 6:49 PM, Dallas Hobbs said:

Was there a rule change for this year? Because I know for the past two years we had ties for the last state spot and those were broken by judges preference. (I think they were both area b, or was one also in area c?)

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Yes there was a rule change prior to this season.  I think the recent ties in Area B and C likely contributed to the support for allowing ties for the final state spots to result in both bands qualifying.

[Vidal28]

Does anyone have the ordinals sheet, not the one posted on UIL but the more detailed sheet? Very curious to see that one

[Iheartdrums]

Was there a percussion judge yesterday? Very curious to see the percussion scores and rankings

[Tubalord11]

  On 10/22/2023 at 8:37 PM, Iheartdrums said:

Was there a percussion judge yesterday? Very curious to see the percussion scores and rankings

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No, they don't do caption judges at area, but in the more broken down scores which unfortunately weren't posted, the music judges rank the percussions themselves within the overall music rank. 

[MarchingBandOG]

The difference of opinion blows my mind, that 2 judges thought Waxahachie was the best band on the field in music, while a 3rd judge ranked them 8! 

[Gehrig4]

  On 10/22/2023 at 6:35 PM, Jon said:

Just found out that if you add up the Prelims results, SLC and KCent tied for 7th... wow. If we went off prelims results alone 8 bands would have advanced.(i think there was a new rule about advancing tied bands for state.)

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Now go Read what I said about a judge spike.  

[SCVanguard]

[Vidal28]

  On 10/22/2023 at 8:37 PM, Iheartdrums said:

Was there a percussion judge yesterday? Very curious to see the percussion scores and rankings

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Every music judge at area judges percussion, there are specialized percussion judges at State that many say are a lot better at being “accurate” or at least calling it like it is with what they hear!

[Vidal28]

  On 10/23/2023 at 12:23 AM, SCVanguard said:

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I’m being a bit greedy, I know, do you have prelims?👀…

[Origin]

It’s crazy to me that they expect each music judge to score five different sub-captions 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[bancl]

Music judge 2 putting Waxahachie in 8th overall and Keller 11th in brass.... I have some questions.  

[Fallen]

  On 10/23/2023 at 12:23 AM, SCVanguard said:

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where do you go to find this? also is the prelims one available?

[alex4nder]

Would also like to mention that Haltom didn't even make area finals the last 2 years (13th in 2021 and 15th in 2022) so to end up 5th in prelims and 6th in finals is a pretty impressive turn around from the program. Especially in such a brutal area. 

[DfwBandDad]

  On 10/23/2023 at 1:10 AM, Fallen said:

where do you go to find this? also is the prelims one available?

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Found this on UIL site. Official prelim and final results.

https://www.smbc.uiltexas.org/area/results/files/area-23_6A Area B 2023.pdf

[Iheartdrums]

  On 10/23/2023 at 1:10 AM, Fallen said:

where do you go to find this? also is the prelims one available?

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i am also very curious what it looked like for prelims

[LostChoirGuy]

  On 10/23/2023 at 1:56 AM, alex4nder said:

Would also like to mention that Haltom didn't even make area finals the last 2 years (13th in 2021 and 15th in 2022) so to end up 5th in prelims and 6th in finals is a pretty impressive turn around from the program. Especially in such a brutal area. 

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Yes, I'm really happy for Haltom.  It's good to see a comeback year for them.

[LostChoirGuy]

  On 10/23/2023 at 12:40 AM, bancl said:

Music judge 2 putting Waxahachie in 8th overall and Keller 11th in brass.... I have some questions.  

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The waxahachie one is baffling, but from what I've heard, there were some evident struggles in the brass opening fanfare for Keller that people have mentioned.  That judge might have been harsher about it.  I think it bodes well for them going into state because they are still improving and if they fixed that up they likely would have been ahead of at least Timber Creek here.

[littlejaw]

  On 10/23/2023 at 12:40 AM, bancl said:

Music judge 2 putting Waxahachie in 8th overall and Keller 11th in brass.... I have some questions.  

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I can’t disagree with overall placements, but Keller 11th in brass (tied for last in finals) is baffling.

[BandDad4]

  On 10/23/2023 at 12:50 AM, Asaiah said:

Well... even though I personally disagree with that judge, it's worth noting that he's the Fine Arts Director for Leander ISD. So even though his opinion differs from mine, I trust that it's an informed opinion.

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Fine arts director doesn't always mean they know anything about music. He might, but many don't as they come from theatre or educational backgrounds.

[Gehrig4]

If we dont stress about the actual placements, its really just comes down to who made it and who didn't.   And that conversation begins and ends with the 4 (berkner) and 12 (Carroll) ordinals in finals.    The rest of the bands were not really surprises.    (I suppose Central not making it was, but Haltom was very good - so someone had to sit.)

[BDC]

  On 10/23/2023 at 12:50 AM, Asaiah said:

Well... even though I personally disagree with that judge, it's worth noting that he's the Fine Arts Director for Leander ISD. So even though his opinion differs from mine, I trust that it's an informed opinion.

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He has since retired.  Mike Howard is the Fine Arts Director for Leander ISD now.  just FYI.