Every UIL Area Result 2023

[Dave609]

With UIL contest's just around the corner, I thought it would be fun to bring back my favorite topic I have made for the last 3 years :). The UIL Area Contest's will be a fun one for sure as we will get to see every band try and advance on to the UIL State Marching Championships in San Antonio. Who do you think will advance on?

2A-

Area A- Panhandle, Sundown, Lockney, Ralls, Hale Center

Area B- Anson, Honey Grove, Santo, Bangs

Area C - Rivercrest, Tenaha, Clarksville

Area D - Shiner, Valley Mills, Rosebud-Lott, Mason

Area E- Ganado, Louise, Charlotte

 

3A-

Area A-

Area B-

Area C -

Area D -

Area E- 

 

4A-

Area A- West Plains, Canyon, Canyon Randall, Pecos

Area B- Celina, Anna, Panther Creek, Canton

Area C - North Lamar, Sulphur Springs, Paris, Lumberton, Bridge City

Area D - China Spring, Alvarado, Gatesville, Burnet, Castleberry, Robinson

Area E- Davenport, RGC: Grulla, Calallen, Raymondville, Floresville, Robstown, Alice

 

5A-

Area A- J.M. Hanks HS (West Zone), Lubbock HS (East Zone), Lubbock Cooper HS (East Zone)

Area B-

Area C -

Area D -

Area E- Friendswood, Foster, Churchill Fulshear

Area F-

Area G-

Area H-

Area I- A&M Consolidated & College Station

 

6A-

Area A- Permian, Midland, Pebble Hills, Coronado

Area B- Coppell, Waxahachie, L.D. Bell, Timber Creek, Keller, Haltom, Berkner

Area C - Hebron, Marcus, Flower Mound, Wylie, Prosper, Wylie East

Area D - Ronald Reagan, Round Rock, Claudia Taylor Johnson, Westwood, Dripping Springs

Area E-  Pearland, Dickinson, Clear Brook, Dawson

Area F- The Woodlands, North Shore, Klein Oak, Tomball Memorial, The Woodlands College Park

Area G- PSJA, John B. Alexander, Laredo United

Area H- Vandegrift, Vista Ridge, Westlake, Lake Travis

Area I- Bridgeland, Cy-Fair, Katy Tompkins, Cypress Woods, Seven Lakes

[Ranxh1938292]

6A Area I- Cy-Fair, Cy-Woods, Bridgeland, Seven Lakes, and the 5th spot is up for grabs between James E Taylor and Katy/Maybe Cinco ranch!

[DifferentialBrassExplosion]

6A Area E -

State Advancement :

1. Pearland

2/3. SFA/Dawson,

4/5. Dickinson/ Shadow Creek

 

 Other guaranteed (sort of) finalists are between Clear Brook, Clements, Brazoswood, and Clear Falls

[servingcont_ra]

6A Area B - Coppell, Southlake Carroll, Keller, Waxahachie, Keller Central

[Ranxh1938292]

8 hours ago, servingcont_ra said:

6A Area B - Coppell, Southlake Carroll, Keller, Waxahachie, Keller Central

Did Keller central make state last year? I don’t completely remember for sure as I know Keller made state, but not sure about central.

[Tubalord11]

1 hour ago, Ranxh1938292 said:

Did Keller central make state last year? I don’t completely remember for sure as I know Keller made state, but not sure about central.

They were 3rd in prelims, but dropped to 9th in finals 

[Online Marcher]

On 9/13/2023 at 11:02 PM, DifferentialBrassExplosion said:

6A Area E -

State Advancement :

1. Pearland

2/3. SFA/Dawson,

4/5. Dickinson/ Shadow Creek

 

 Other guaranteed (sort of) finalists are between Clear Brook, Clements, Brazoswood, and Clear Falls

I could argue that this would be more accurate for this season, but I'll have to see as the season goes on

1. Pearland (of course)

2/3. Dawson (I believe that they have a good chance at maintaining that second spot at finals)

2/3/4. Dickinson (Their show has a lot of potential, but I could see them floating between the 2nd through 4th spot)

3/4. Clear Brook (Looking at their show it had a lot of good potential and maybe they would be able to jump up to that third spot)

4/5. SFA (Mainly going from last year, but I think they have a good shot at a state spot and i heard that they have more people this year)

5/6/7/8 Shadow Creek/ Clements/ Brazoswood (I believe that each of these bands could have a good chance at being able to get that 5th spot in finals mainly Clements or Brazoswood. With how these bands are, theres a good chance that the 5th-9th spots will change between prelims and finals)

7/8/9. Clear Falls (With how competitive the top bands are in this area, I find it hard to think they would be able to get that 5th spot in finals)

9/10. Clear Lake (Of course I believe that we'll also see Clear Lake in finals)

Maybe perhaps Travis and Pasadena Memorial could show at finals this year,depending on how well their shows are.

[Ranxh1938292]

10 hours ago, Tubalord11 said:

They were 3rd in prelims, but dropped to 9th in finals 

I really do feel for the kids when that happens in band programs at area prelims/finals, hopefully we will see them at state this year.

[Tubalord11]

2 minutes ago, Ranxh1938292 said:

I really do feel for the kids when that happens in band programs at area prelims/finals, hopefully we will see them at state this year.

Ik! I was rally hoping we’d get to see all 3 Keller schools that made finals at state. Happens all the time to the best, but hopefully they make it this year! 

[LostChoirGuy]

Keller Central and Timber Creek were so good last year.  I can't wait for the time when all three make it to state or into finals at San Antonio

[Ranxh1938292]

10 hours ago, Tubalord11 said:

Ik! I was rally hoping we’d get to see all 3 Keller schools that made finals at state. Happens all the time to the best, but hopefully they make it this year! 

It’d be really nice, for Keller ISD to say they had all Keller schools go to state, and it’d be great for the kids, I really want to see how Keller central would do in comparison to Keller.

[themobb1]

4A Área C

Sulfur Springs

Lumberton

Paris

North Lamar

Bridge City

(in no particular order) 

[Tubalord11]

As a former 5A area B participant, here's my super early predictions, will do other area's when we get closer to the area comps: 

1st. Wakeland 

2nd. Lonestar 

3rd. Mckinney North 

4th: Lebanon Trial 

5th: Argyle 

6th: Lovejoy 

7th: Independence 

8th: The Colony 

9th: Melissa 

10th: Walnut Grove 

[servingcont_ra]

On 9/14/2023 at 7:57 AM, Ranxh1938292 said:

Did Keller central make state last year? I don’t completely remember for sure as I know Keller made state, but not sure about central.

I have hope for Central this year, at BOA SA last year they scored above big bands like Westlake and Bell. I know UIL and BOA judge differently but it’s also not like it’s a completely different set of finalists between the two circuits

[TrenBS]

I have 2 predictions for 6A area C taking different things into account, both have same top 3 for early on predictions:

1. Hebron

2. Marcus

3. Flower Mound

Ok now the rest, here are my 2 likely scenarios from what Ive seen

4. Prosper

5. Boyd/Wylie (draw)

6. Boyd/Wylie (draw)

7. Wylie East

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8. Rockwall

9. Sachse

10. Rock Hill

——————

11. Plano Sr.

12. Lewisville

or

4. Wylie

5. Prosper

6. Boyd/Wylie East (draw)

7. Boyd/Wylie East (draw)

——————

8. Rock Hill

9. Sachse

——————

10. Allen

11. Rockwall

12. Lewisville

 

(This explanation is also how I feel with UIL in general, area C is just a good example which explains the long explanation besides nerd shenanigans).

The way I see UIL judging that seems to have some logic and consistency is that these finalists/state qualifiers have cleanliness and difficulty factors which separate these bands into “tiers”, so top 3 are on a different level of difficulty with higher levels of cleanliness which causes the point division, where 4-6/7 (depending on if a tie occurs), are on a tier below, which from the shows Ive seen so far, the Wylies, Prosper and Boyd reside, in which the cleanliness decides placements or if they belong in those categories. If we were to say Prosper played a same level difficulty show as Marcus or Flower Mound but due to the jump is significantly less clean, they get pushed down a tier besides the content being on the same level, but would place 4th since they are on that edge of moving up.

If a 7th tie advancement to state occurs, I really wouldn't be surprised, and tie breakers can go any way with Boyd and Wylies since I enjoy the writing and direction Boyd has more, while the Wylies utilize more advanced technique, which will end up going to judge preference.

For the rest, its just personal opinion and  just how I think they would turn out, Allen being in finals is if their new direction with the reduced numbers into a varsity group go well. Rockwall is pushing harder into BOA they could move up more spots, and Rock Hill seems to have taken some heavy hits with Walnut, not saying they are bad, but I personally dont see them on the same level as the bands above them for a little while until they full recover.

Some dark horses I can see are Braswell, McKinney High, and Plano West/East, as they would comprise my 13-16, something Ive also noticed is that the score divide from 3rd to 4th has been closing very recently, being 17 and 29 in 2018, 15 and 29 in 2021, and then now merely 17 and 25 this past year, with Marcus losing both of their marching captions to people below them, and while I dont see a major flip happening this year, these top groups at area in particular may have to tread lightly in future years if the momentum of the Prosper, Wylie, and McKinney schools continue, which is always fun.

Of course the actual placements are purely opinion, but I like explaining my thought process as if someone else has a different insight on these comps, it give new perspectives that I may have not seen before.

 

 

 

 

[seafoodbuffet]

Due to their uncanny ability to maximize at area, Vista Ridge will once again win the 6A Area H contest. 

[TrenBS]

3 minutes ago, seafoodbuffet said:

Due to their uncanny ability to maximize at area, Vista Ridge will once again win the 6A Area H contest. 

Its pretty wild how they pull that off fairly consistently but then at state they dont medal, really shows what one week can really do

[Ranxh1938292]

21 hours ago, servingcont_ra said:

I have hope for Central this year, at BOA SA last year they scored above big bands like Westlake and Bell. I know UIL and BOA judge differently but it’s also not like it’s a completely different set of finalists between the two circuits

Exactly, There are reasons why you see about the same set of finalists in BOA SA and State.

[gregorydf01]

18 hours ago, TrenBS said:

Its pretty wild how they pull that off fairly consistently but then at state they dont medal, really shows what one week can really do

State Gold Medal in 6A in 2018?   I think that counts....

[LostChoirGuy]

51 minutes ago, oktxregulators said:

 

That's why BOA and State Competitions are too different animals.   BOA uses a system that leans toward rewarding "effect". UIL uses a system that leans toward rewarding "execution". BOA rewards the well-designed show. UIL rewards the well-performed show. Success in both is rare.

I've been to a few BOA competitions that had UIL State teams compete in it and do a great show with little or no flaws and not make it to finals and see schools with a massive show have tons of flaws and make it to finals. As a school it is extremely hard to try and compete in both which is why schools either do straight BOA or straight UIL.

I'm going to have to hard disagree.  There is a reason a very high percentage of finalists at BOA competitions and UIL competitions overlap.  Great bands will succeed in either circuit.  I think your flawed reasoning comes from a mistake a lot of people make- that General Effect means Design.  General Effect is influenced by quality design, but only insomuch as a band performs what is given to them exceptionally.  But GE is in itself a measure of both execution and showmanship and will be influenced by the show's difficulty.  The top bands will be doing shows will lots of effect and will execute at a high level, so they tend to do well at both UIL and BOA.

I do think when it comes to smaller bands in UIL classes 4a or smaller, it isn't very practical to expect most bands to have the resources to develop a BOA style show and that's fine.  I'm not sure however where these bands that only do BOA and not UIL are that you mentioned?

[Ranxh1938292]

2 hours ago, oktxregulators said:

 

That's why BOA and State Competitions are two different animals.   BOA uses a system that leans toward rewarding "effect". UIL uses a system that leans toward rewarding "execution". BOA rewards the well-designed show. UIL rewards the well-performed show. Success in both is rare.

I've been to a few BOA competitions that had UIL State teams compete in it and do a great show with little or no flaws and not make it to finals and see schools with a massive show have tons of flaws and make it to finals. As a school it is extremely hard to try and compete in both which is why schools either do straight BOA or straight UIL.

I’ve seen schools do lots of BOA and still go to UIL because they frankly don’t really have a choice. It is required in most districts.

[TrenBS]

On 9/16/2023 at 4:51 PM, gregorydf01 said:

State Gold Medal in 6A in 2018?   I think that counts....

Was talking more about this year, especially with yearly state its changed how bands approach their shows

[TexasStrangers]

1 hour ago, TrenBS said:

Was talking more about this year, especially with yearly state its changed how bands approach their shows

Yes, with UIL now every year it's going to be hard on several programs that are underfunded or small schools to put on a good show year in and year out which would bring out more parody in results with the exception of some schools that are competitive year in and year out.

[vacon3`]

On 9/13/2023 at 11:02 PM, DifferentialBrassExplosion said:

6A Area E -

State Advancement :

1. Pearland

2/3. SFA/Dawson,

4/5. Dickinson/ Shadow Creek

 

 Other guaranteed (sort of) finalists are between Clear Brook, Clements, Brazoswood, and Clear Falls

There’s a recent video of SFA, and I’m not sure about third. I would however put Dickinson up there. They really sound great this year. 

[DifferentialBrassExplosion]

3 hours ago, vacon3` said:

There’s a recent video of SFA, and I’m not sure about third. I would however put Dickinson up there. They really sound great this year. 

Do you have that video or do you know where to find it